POST-DEBATE NOTE: My friend just said that MSNBC declared McCain the winner. MS-FREAKING-NBC.
10:27 - So, Mac says we're safer than we were the day after 9/11. Obama says we're less respected in the world, and bin Laden is still out there. MCCAIN COMPARED OBAMA'S STUBBORNNESS ON THE SURGE TO BUSH. BRILLIANT. DEBATE WON. Basically, after that, nothing anyone said mattered. PWNage accomplished.
10:24 - Sooo, McCain has basically kept saying Obama doesn't know a thing, and Obama keeps saying McCain knows stuff but disagrees with him. Really, Obama has utterly failed this debate. He keeps fumbling and interrupting, and McCain has stayed on offence and cited his long record. This debate has been a consistent EPIC WIN for McCain.
10:10 - Mac: I won't sit down with the dude who wants to wipe Israel off the map. Obama: No preconditions doesn't mean I want a tea party. More sniping until McCain CRUSSSSSSSSHES Obama by just acting like Obama isn't even there and says, He'll meet Iran without preconditions - AGAIN, WHAT THE HELL, OBAMA?!
10:07 - Mac: I want a league of democracies, and we can't have a second Holocaust. Obama voted against calling the Iranian Guard a terrorist organisation. Obama: Did not! McCain supported increasing the mandate in Iraq!
10:00 - Mac: Gives history of good judgement and tells veteran bracelet story. Obama hits back: I HAVE A BRACELET, TOO! The two keep going back and forth. Eventually, Lehrer shifts the subject to Iran. I totally forgot there was a host.
9:50 - Obama is interrupting like an idiot. He is completely unPresidential. Wait your turn, SENATOR Obama.
9:48 - Funny thing: According to Obama, more troops will work in Afghanistan, but it wouldn't have worked in Iraq.
9:45 - Mac: The issue is NOT our going in. It's how to end the war. I was for the surge, and Obama was retarded. Obama lies and says Mac wants to act like the war started in 2007 and that the surge undid the previous four years of failure. MAC WAS FIGHTING THAT FAILING STRATEGY, YOU LIAR.
9:41 - THE LESSONS OF IRAQ: Mac is all like, Yeah, I challenged the strategy! Obama says, Well, I was always against Iraq!
9:37 - Mac: Obama has 800 billion dollars in new spending. I don't want to raise anyone's taxes. Obama: YOUR President is why everything sucks, and you voted with him 90% of the time. Mac: I'm a maverick, bitch!
9:33 - Obama: We send ten billion dollars to Iraq every month, but they have a surplus. Mac: We send 700 billion dollars overseas, and some of that lands in terrorists' hands. We need all forms of energy, including off-shore drilling and nuclear.
9:30 - Mac: Obama's the most liberal Senator. It's hard to reach across the aisle from that far to the Left. I oppose ethanol subsidies. And excess spending sucks.
9:28 - Obama: OOH! I'm gonna make college affordable! I can turn coal into gold!
9:26 - I'm lost. I've never seen this contentious a debate. Obama is PISSED that McCain is smiling, and Obama is whining. I love it.
9:16 - I'll veto pork-laden bills. Obama has asked for a million dollars for every day he has been in the Senate. The two go back and forth on the issue of ear-marks. Mac accuses Obama of only stopping ear-mark requests for political reasons.
9:13 - People say stuff. Obama says he saw this problem coming, as does McCain. Obama takes "fundamentals of economy are strong" pot-shot. Lehrer says to say it to Mac directly. Mac says, Did you think I didn't hear it?
9:06 - McCain: Notes Sen. Kennedy's hospitalisation. Thanks bi-partisanship exhibited by Congressmen who came together for the economic compromise. McCain supports a package to fix the economy and ending American dependence on foreign oil.
9:05 - Obama: No padding CEOs' pockets and no golden showers - uh - parachutes. The last eight years have been EPIC FAIL, and I want to fix stuff.
9:03 - Question to Obama: Where do you stand on the financial recovery plan?
9:02 - Jim Lehrer introduces the candidates. LET'S DO THIS THANG.
9:01 - FNC's flashy debate opening is good - it comes with Reagan's "I will not make an issue of my opponent's youth and inexperience" line. Natch.
9:00 - IT'S ON.
Friday, 26 September 2008
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It's kind of boring hearing Obama repeat "its ugh ugh because of Iraq"
Agreed. Was I the only one who found that whole thing slightly odd? It was like a child arguing with an adult.
Obama: That's not twue. No you're lyin'. Stop lyin'! *stomps foot* I never did that.
The constant interruptions of 'NA UH' that happened more on Obama's part than McCain were slightly juvenile. And the fact that in half the interruptions was him arguing and then saying he agrees with McCain.
I have to say, I'm slightly disappointed in Obama. I didn't expect him to win, but I did expect to hear an adult speak eloquently.
I got none of that. Obama's debate team must seriously be chewing him out now.
P.S. Am I the only one who's thinking that maybe Bin laden is no longer a threat since he's old, possibly sick with the poor conditions he must have lived in while in hiding to lead Al Qaeda? I'm thinking by now they may have a new leader and a focus on the group itself should be made rather than a single person that we haven't been able to find to this day.
But that's just my own musings.
D,
Thanks for posting this, I didn't get to see the debate. this was great!!
That was a great debate, Obama came off as a whiny, tax raising loser and McCain a commanding, thoughtful patriot.
Good seeing you on J$P, Damian!
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